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Please give us a week to process your application. ***WE FINANCE FUN*** HAVE SOME!!! Home | Rate Quote Form | Online Application | Warranty Quote | Tax Deductibility | Payment Calculator Warranties | Privacy Policy | Employment | Affiliate Program | RV Survey FAQs | Contact Excel Credit 505 Wekiva Springs Rd. #200 Longwood, Fl 32779 [in Florida] (407) 862-2225 [toll free] (800) 337-7774 ©2005. Excel Credit® is a Registered Trademark of Excel Credit, Inc. No portion of this site may be reproduced. Site design by Design4dot.com Diesel Motor HomeBUYING A NEW DIESEL COACH IF I WERE BUYING A NEW DIESEL COACH By: Frank R. Gummersall My dear bride Sylvia and I have just purchased our second diesel coach and fourth motor home and went through a lot of sole searching making all the choices involved. How much should we spend? How big should it be? How long are we going to live this lifestyle? Where will we keep it? How many days are we going to spend in the coach per year? Where will we camp most of the time? How much should it weigh? How much are we going to tow? What should the floor plan be? Do we want two couches? Do we want a dinette? Do we want a slide out or two? How are we going to entertain? These are just a few of the questions that we answered to decide to buy our new coach. The "Life Style" that we have grown to enjoy very much is the reason that we motor home. "What" motor home does not really change the opportunity to enjoy the freedom, friendship, challenge, enjoyment, scenery, people, food, and all the other things that are part of the life. When we think of our first motor home which was a 19' Cortez, or the 25' Winnebago, or the 34' Georgie Boy, or our current 36' Monaco we come to the same conclusion: We love the "Life Style". We want to continue to enjoy it until we are not able to do it safely. The safety of motor homing is a subject that has many facets. Driveability is important and in general the more expensive the unit is, the better it drives. Gas motor homes tend to be overloaded and under braked. They also tend to be more effected by winds, passing trucks, ruts in the roads, and other conditions that we all experience. The more miles you drive, the more important driveability becomes. We took delivery of our new coach in September 1998 and have enjoyed over 16,000 miles of safe travel in just these first four months. We are planning a trip to Georgia in March; Montana, British Columbia, and Oregon in June; Iowa in July and a few side trips in between. It would be hard to think about all these miles in anything but a long wheelbase, stable, heavy motor home. For me, Safety is the paramount issue in the purchase of a new motor home of any class. There are some motor homes in any class that I would not drive under any circumstances because they are not stable at highway speeds and cannot stop safely. This group of motor homes is characterized by overloading, bad balance of weight, short wheelbase, and inadequate brakes. An underpowered rig is not unsafe except in two conditions. (1) Getting on a busy Interstate and (2) staying away from slow 18 wheelers on long mountain passes. Thousands of underpowered 18 wheelers drive safely millions of miles, but one thing they have to do is stop well under emergency conditions. So hundreds of underpowered motor homes can drive thousands of miles safely, but it isn't much fun. I like at least 1.1 horse powere per 100 lbs. of GCW. It is also difficult to resell and underpowered coach. Tom asked me to think about writing an article that takes the reader through all the choices necessary to make an informed purchase of a diesel pusher and I thought "No Way". How could I write a non-biased article not mentioning brand names and being totally objective? Well I decided that I could not do that, but I could take each major part of a motor home and describe the considerations that should be made in deciding which coach to buy. This article will concentrate only on new Class A coaches and contains my opinions and feelings on this subject. You need to remember that previously owned and loved coaches offer a significant value but purchasing one can be very scary. I will leave that to another article. This article will touch on some living and traveling considerations but will not represent any comprehensive discussion on the exact requirements that will be true for each and every purchaser. How much to spend? There are generally four or five price levels for Class A motor homes including Gas Coaches. Many of us have a budget that will stand no more than $100, 000 and that means a Gas Coach. The new Ford Chassis makes this choice a very viable option that offers living space and carrying capacity that is enough to support most of us, even full timing. So why spend more? That is a question that can only be answered by understanding why at least 10,000 of us guys talk our spouses into spending extra for a diesel coach every year. Why is that? A lot has to do with the purchasing power of us retired people. We have been lucking enough to save a little and make a little in real estate or invest in a Microsoft at $17 in 1980. Us guys like all the engines, transmissions, suspensions, brakes, and stuff that has grease on it. Our spouses like the floor plans, wall paper design, fabrics on the furniture, bathroom design, window dressings and all other factors concerning the living space Many of these camping places limit RV sizes so that is one specification that you must place on your list of requirements. How long should it be? Many campgrounds limit lengths, especially National, State, and County Parks. Many driveways of friends and relatives can not accommodate a 42' coach, so how long should the coach be? Where are you going to store the motor home when not in use? What about the floor plan? Since most of us travel as a couple, dinettes are as popular as a dining table and two chairs with a leaf to expand and accommodate two people on folding chairs. A potty that has a door, seems to be very popular choice. A shower that can handle a man of a mature size is also important. Two facing couches seem important to some people. A Queen walk around bed seems to be a very minimum requirement. Slide outs are currently delivered in over 90% of the coaches manufactured, but should you get one? I have written a subsequent article on this subject. I have decided as I write this article that I should concentrate on two classes of diesel pushers or this article will never end. The two classes are under $150,000 and over $150,000. I will not spend time on coaches that cost more than $250,000. There are many choices from almost all manufacturers in the under $150,000 class. This class can be generalized by the 32-38', 275hp engine, Freightliner or Spartan Chassis, Air Brakes, propane generator, manufactured wood cabinets with print grain, 1000 watt inverter/charger, two group 57 coach batteries and 5,000 lb. tow capacity. Typical examples of this class are Fleetwood Destiny, Winnebago Chieftan, National Tradewind, Holiday Rambler Endeavor, Allegro Bay, Rexhall Rose, Monaco Diplomat, Coachmen Sportscoach and others. We put 80,000 miles on a 1993 model example of this kind of coach and had a great time. We experienced the average amount of maintenance and repair costs, but we starting to have failures in the components like the steering box, which were starting to wear out. My conclusion is that some components used in this class coach are not true heavy-duty truck parts. In my experience, this class of coach is great for many people, because they will never put that many miles on the coach and they will spend most nights in Campgrounds hooked up to shore power. The generator will have less than 300 hours on it and the tires will weather check before they wear out. There will be many happy campers in this class of coach who will experience all the "Life Style" benefits of motor homing. However there are some coaches in this class that are only marginally safe when it comes to highway stability, balance, power, and braking. They are the ones that overload the chassis, leave little net payload capacity, have too small of brake size for safe stopping, and are not stable in high winds. The $150,000-$225,000 category is characterized by 36'-40', 330+hp, Custom Chassis, Air Suspension, Air Brakes, Diesel Generator, real wood cabinets, 2000 watt inverter charger, four golf cart batteries, 10,000 lb. towing capacity, and higher quality finish. Examples of this class are Monaco Windsor, Fleetwood American, Winnebago Ultimate, Holiday Rambler Imperial, Coachman SportsCoach, Allegro Bus, Country Coach Allure, Western RV Apline Coach and others. These coaches are serious rving machines. Large holding tanks, large fuel tanks, 500 amp hour capacity battery bank, large tires, weight ratings that allow huge carrying and towing capacity, high quality audio and video equipment, and other luxury features makes this class of motor home a true "High Line". Custom paint jobs including matched paint jobs on the towed cars. Is this price justified? The buyers can only answer that question. This class of coach is typically used by full timers or near full timers and usually covers 15,000 to 20,000 miles per year. That means usage patterns that require heavy duty truck parts used in the chassis. Customers demand whisper quiet road noise level, over the road video capability, luxury materials and finish used inside, and many other options. These coaches are typically built on custom chassis that are build for the exact length and floor plan of the coach. This integrated design of house and vehicle facilitates proper weight distribution, optimum placement of components like the generator. Several attempts have been made to use diesel engines in less expensive coaches but all have failed to garner any market share. An Isuzu Chassis was used but found to have too few horses. Chevrolet tried collaboration with Spartan to produce a very low-end diesel pusher using their pickup sized diesel engine in a frame rail chassis. It did not work. The demands we make on manufacturers for more and more features, functions, and conveniences will no doubt cause and always bigger is better mentality. We will continue to push design limits of components that are economically available for use in motor homes. Currently Spartan offers a chassis with a Cummins 210 hp/ Allison 542 that is in my opinion going to wind up failing to gain market share because it has too little ump and too little braking. Diesel pushers are here to stay in a big way with over 10,000 being built every year. I doubt that costs will come down. So why should you spend the additional $40,000 to get a diesel? Or why should you spend an additional $100,000 or more to buy a luxury diesel? Each individual purchaser can only state the parameters of this decision making. 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Insurance Centre Get a great deal on your Motorcaravan and Caravan insurance About Motorhome & Caravan Trader Magazine To subscribe to Motorhome and Caravan Trader magazine click here or telephone: 0121 683 2686 MOBILE HOME SALES LTD.RE PARK MOBILE HOME SALES LTD. AND LE GREELY (618) RE PARK MOBILE HOME SALES LTD. 283 RE PARK MOBILE HOME SALES LTD. AND LE GREELY (1978), 85 D.L.R. (3d) 618 British Columbia Court of Appeal, Farris C.J.B.C., Taggart and SeatonJJ.A., 6 March 1978 (On appeal from judgment of British Columbia County Court, suprap.278) 284 RE PARK MOBILE HOME SALES LTD. (618) Landlord and tenant -- Rent -- Increase -- Whether provisions of Landlordand Tenant Act restricting rent increases applicable to premises located on In- dian reserve where landlord and tenant not Indians -- Landlord and Tenant Act,1974 (B.C.), c. 45, s. 27. Indians -- Jurisdiction -- Landlord and Tenant Act restricting right to in- crease rent -- Whether applicable to tenancy of residential premises on Indianreserve where landlord and tenant not Indians -- Landlord and Tenant Act, 1974(B.C.), c. 45, s. 27. Section 27 (rep. & sub. 1974, c. 109, s. 10) of the Landlord and Tenant Act , 1974(B.C.), c. 45, which restricts the right of a landlord to increase rent for residentialpremises, applies to a month-to-month tenancy of a pad located in a mobile homepark on an Indian reserve where the landlord and tenant are not Indians. The Landlord and Tenant Act is within the legislative authority of the Province pur- suant to s. 92 of the British North American Act, 1867 , and is not legislation in rela- tion to a subject-matter assigned exclusively to the Canadian Parliament under91 of that Act. [ Cardinal v. A.-G. Alta. (1973), 40 D.L.R. (3d) 553, 13 C.C.C. (2d) 1, [1974] 2 S.C.R.695, [1973] 6 W.W.R. 205, apld; Corp. of Surrey et al. v. Peace Arch Enterprises Ltd.et al. (1970), 74 W.W.R. 380, distd] APPEAL from a judgment affirming the jurisdiction of the rent- alsman. John A. McAfee , for applicant, appellant. J. T. Steeves and N. W. Dowad , for respondents. The judgment of the Court was delivered by FARRIS, C.J.B.C.:--The issue in this appeal is whether s. 27 [rep.& sub. 1974, c. 109, s. 10] of the Landlord and Tenant Act , 1974(B.C.) c. 45, which restricts the right of a landlord to increase rentfor residential premises applies to a month-to-month tenancy of apad located in a mobile home park on an Indian reserve, the land- lord and tenant being non-Indians. It is my view that this sectiondoes apply. The Tsinstikeptum Indian Reserve No. 9 is located in OsoyoosDivision of the Yale District of the Province of British Columbia.On July 1,1971, Her Majesty the Queen, represented by the Minis- ter of Indian Affairs and Northern Development, leased to Wes- Kel Holdings Ltd., Lots 31 and 32 of the reserve, for a term of 50years. On October 12,1972, Wes-Kel Holdings Ltd. sublet the prop- erty (for the balance of the term) to Park Mobile Homes Sales Ltd.,the appellant herein. In August, 1975, the appellant rented a mo- bile home pad to the respondent Le Greely pursuant to the termsof a month-to-month residential tenancy agreement. Subsequently,a dispute arose between the appellant and the respondent in re- spect of a proposed rent increase. (619) RE PARK MOBILE HOME SALES LTD. 285 A hearing was held on the matter before the rentalsman underthe provisions of the Landlord and Tenant Act . At the hearing,counsel for the appellant argued that the rentalsman was withoutjurisdiction to hear the dispute as the mobile park was located onIndian land belonging to the federal Government. The rentalsmanruled that he did have jurisdiction to hear this dispute. An appealwas taken from his decision to His Honour Judge Macdonald, who,in effect, affirmed the rentalsman's decision. It is from thisaffirmation that the present appeal is brought. Section 91(24) of the British North America Act, 1867 confersexclusive authority on the Parliament of Canada to legislate in re- lation to "Indians and Lands reserved for the Indians". Pursuantto this paragraph Parliament has enacted the Indian Act , R.S.C.1970, c. I-6. Section 60(1) of the Act provides that the Governor inCouncil may, at the request of a band, grant to the band the rightto exercise such control and management over land in the reserveoccupied by that band as the Governor in Council considers desira- ble. It is common ground that there has been no exercise of thispower. It is also common ground that there has been no exercise ofthe power of the Governor in Council to make regulations under s.73(1) applicable to the lands in question. Section 88 of the Indian Act reads as follows: 88. Subject to the terms of any treaty and any other Act of the Parliamentof Canada, all laws of general application from time to time in force in anyprovince are applicable to and in respect of Indians in the province, except tothe extent that such laws are inconsistent with this Act or any order, rule, reg- ulation or by-law made thereunder, and except to the extent that such lawsmake provision for any matter for which provision is made by or under thisAct. It is agreed that this section has no application to the present dis- pute as neither the appellant nor the respondent is an Indian andalso it does not apply to Indian lands. Counsel for the appellant concedes that the Landlord and Ten- ant Act is valid legislation within the competence of the Legisla- ture of British Columbia. He also concedes that it is an Act of gen- eral application. The sole question in this appeal is whether or nots. 27 of that Act applies to the tenancy in question. We were in- vited by counsel for the appellant to rule on the application of allsections of the Landlord and Tenant Act to lands forming part ofan Indian reserve. This I decline to do. It is the practice of thisCourt to deal only with the specific dispute that is before it. In my view, the result of this appeal is determined by the major- ity decision of the Supreme Court of Canada in Cardinal v. A.-G.Alta. (1973), 40 D.L.R. (3d) 553, 13 C.C.C. (2d) 1, [1974] 2 S.C.R. 695,and particularly at p. 560 D.L.R., p. 703 S.C.R., where Mr. JusticeMartland, speaking for the majority of the Court, said: 286 RE PARK MOBILE HOME SALES LTD. (620) In my opinion, the test as to the application of provincial legislation within areserve is the same as with respect to its application within the Province andthat is that it must be within the authority of s. 92 and must not be in relationto a subject-matter assigned exclusively to the Canadian Parliament under s.91. Two of those subjects are Indians and Indian reserves, but if provincial leg- islation within the limits of s. 92 is not construed as being legislation in relationto those classes of subjects (or any other subject under s. 91) it is applicableanywhere in the Province, including Indian reserves, even though Indians orIndian reserves might be affected by it. My point is that s. 91(24) enumeratesclasses of subjects over which the federal Parliament has the exclusive powerto legislate, but it does not purport to define areas within a Province withinwhich the power of a Province to enact legislation, otherwise within its pow- ers, is to be excluded. Here, the Landlord and Tenant Act is within the authority of s.92. It is not in relation to a subject-matter assigned exclusively tothe Canadian Parliament under s. 91. This case is stronger on its facts than was the Cardinal case.There the Court held that if the legislation passed the above-men- tioned test it would be applicable everywhere in the Province, in- cluding Indian reserves, even though Indians or Indian reservesmight be affected by it. In the present case, the dispute is betweennon-Indians; further, an increase in rent does not affect Indianlands or the use of Indian lands. It follows that the rentalsman hasjurisdiction under s. 27 of the Landlord and Tenant Act to dealwith the dispute. Counsel for the appellant relied on the decision of this Court in Corp. of Surrey et al. v. Peace Arch Enterprises Ltd. et al. (1970),74W.W.R. 380, where it was held that developers holding a lease oflands forming part of an Indian reserve were not subject to munic- ipal zoning by-laws or to regulations made under the provincial Health Act , R.S.B.C. 1960, c. 170. In that case, however, the Courtheld that both zoning and health regulations were directed to theuse of that land. At p. 383, Maclean, J.A., speaking for the Court,said: It follows, I think, that if these lands are "lands reserved for the Indians"within the meaning of that expression as found in sec. 91(24) of the B.N.A.Act, 1867 , that provincial or municipal legislation purporting to regulate theuse of these "lands reserved for the Indians" is an unwarranted invasion of thelegislative jurisdiction of Parliament to legislate with respect to"lands reserved for the Indians". In Cardinal v. A.-G. Alta., supra , the Supreme Court of Canadainterpreted this decision as meaning that the provincial legislationin question related to the use of Indian lands and was therefore notapplicable to them. See the remarks of Martland, J., at pp. 560-1D.L.R., pp. 704-5 S.C.R.: In District of Surrey v. Peace Arch Enterprises Ltd. (1970), 74 W.W.R. 380,the situation was different. It involved lands in an Indian reserve which hadbeen "surrendered" in trust to the federal Crown for the purpose of leasing.The issue was as to whether the lands were subject, in their use by the lessees, (621) RE PARK MOBILE HOME SALES LTD. 287 who were non-Indians, to certain municipal by-laws and to Regulations underthe provincial Health Act . The Court found that the lands in question were still"lands reserved for the Indians" and, that being so, only the federal Parlia- ment could legislate as to the use to which they might be put. The Morley case[ R. v. Morley (1931), [1932] 4 D.L.R. 483, 58 C.C.C. 166, [1932] 2 W.W.R. 193] isnot mentioned in the judgment and I presume that this was so because thecases were not considered as parallel. Once it was determined that the lands re- mained lands reserved for the Indians, provincial legislation relating to theiruse was not applicable. The game law considered in the Morley case governedthe conduct of persons hunting game in British Columbia and was held to ap- ply in all parts of the Province. The Surrey case is thus distinguishable from that now before us.In the present case the section in question is not legislation in rela- tion to Indian land or the use of Indian land. A number of cases dealing with paramountcy and occupied fieldwere referred to by counsel, but that question does not arise be- cause the field has not been occupied by federal legislation. Accordingly, I would dismiss the appeal. Appeal dismissed. |
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